AEM Podcast #52 - Paul DeBlassie III, PhD – Clinical Psychologist Talks About Pain, Trauma, Self Sabotaging & Finding Safety

An Evolving Man Podcast AEM #52 -

Paul DeBlassie III, PhD

Clinical Psychologist Talks About Pain, Trauma,

Self Sabotaging & Finding Safety

In this episode I am talking with leading clinical psychologist and author, Paul DeBlassie III. Paul has worked in the field of psychology for 40 years and has mainly specialised in working with religious abuse and trauma.


He is also the bestselling author of several books including: Goddess of Everything, Goddess of The Wild Thing, and The Unholy.


I really enjoyed this conversation and loved how relaxed and wise Paul was.


He talked about world leaders and the trauma that they carry. He talked about Putin and what he sees there.


He also went into some depth about his work with trauma treatment and self-hatred. He went on to speak about self-sabotaging and how we find safety. A really fascinating conversation.


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Paul DeBlassie III, Ph.D. is a depth psychologist and award-winning writer living in his native New Mexico, crafting metaphysical thrillers energized with trickster mischief and natural magic. His novels, visionary thrillers, delve deep into archetypal realities as they play out dramatically in the lives of everyday people. Metaphysical dramas set in the mythopoeic realm of Aztlan open vistas of danger, conflict and potential transformation. Good and evil are pivotal arenas for unfolding tales of the supernatural.


Together with visionary/metaphysical novels, he also writes blogs and archetypal essays on trauma, dreams, spirituality, and intuition.



Some of the areas of interest:


  1. I would love for you to share some of your journey. How did you arrive at doing what you do now?
  2. Some of the areas to talk about:
  3. Spirituality
  4. Depth psychology
  5. Dreams – how do we connect and understand dreams? How do we integrate the messages that our dreams are telling us? What is the best way to work with dreams?
  6. Trauma and how to treat it
  7. Pain
  8. Archetypes
  9. The shadows
  10. World Leaders
  11. Finding safety
  12. The culture of the church
  13. Some of Paul's quotes: “
  14. Depth psychologist Robert D. Romanyshyn in his paper, “The World Is a Tissue of Metaphors,” noted that the dream: “is a nightly address to the ego-mind which undoes its fixed positions, a kind of nightly humiliation that humbles consciousness and leads it back into the earth, a journey that re-situates mind in the humus, the soil of the soul. (2011, p. 2)”
  15. “Descent into the underworld, stepping into the Cave of All Knowing, and plunging into the mother sea of the collective unconscious, symbolize immersion into self, leaning into and immersing ourselves in the pulse and beat of the confluence of our inner and outer lives. From such immersion a transformation occurs: what Romanyshyn described as “ordinary epiphanies of the moment that, when we are ready and properly disposed, are momentous epiphanies, festive occasions when the miracle in the ordinary manifests itself, moments that are occasions for wonder and celebration” (2011, p. 4).”https://www.depthinsights.com 2012
  16. “that only the experience of the numinous was really capable of effecting a healing transformation” Jung (Dourley)
  17. ““The attempt to describe disintegration anxiety is the attempt to describe the indescribable” (p. 16). Such disintegration and soul loss can be experienced as a death of facets of self if trauma is of sufficient duration and intensity. Despair and emptiness often accompany such dissociative soul loss. Overwhelming perceptions that the mind is not and never will be well come into sharp focus.” Kohut 1984
  18. “Once the trauma defense is organized, all relations with the outer world are ‘screened’ by the self-care system. What was intended to be a defense against further trauma becomes a major resistance to all unguarded spontaneous expression of self in the world. The person survives but cannot live creatively. Psychotherapy becomes necessary.” (p. 4) Kalsched 1996


For more information about Paul DeBlassie III please visit: https://www.pauldeblassieiii.com/


Or to purchase his books on his website: https://www.pauldeblassieiii.com/books/


Or on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Paul-DeBlassie-III/e/B00E5TBJXY/ref=aufs_dp_fta_dsk


Or to sign up for his newsletter: https://www.pauldeblassieiii.com/about/




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An Evolving Man (AEM) Podcast is for men (and women) who want to grow, evolve and want support in learning how to do this.

On a regular basis there will be an interview around men's (and women's) topics ranging from self-development, relationships, spirituality, archetypes, trauma, boarding school syndrome and men's work featuring authors and leaders in this field.

The sense with these interviews is to support people during these times of change. What are the teachings, tools and practices that you can use to help you through these turbulent times?


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